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right good evening ladies and gentlemen

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boys and girls cool

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welcome to the mid-september soupçon

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meeting can I take the opportunity to

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thank everybody again for their

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attendance tonight it's really nice to

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see so many of you here so thanks for

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that over the last few years Emily

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myself and Micah visited quite a number

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of UFO clubs throughout the country and

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I can tell you know that our meetings

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probably have one of the highest

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attendance figures of them all on the

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one hand I really hope that one day we

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can get the bottom of the phenomena but

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on the other hand would be no clever be

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I go to the job so I think the good

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attendance figures are not at least

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partly by the varied and quality

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speakers that we have managed to source

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for you and tonight's no exception we

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have the pleasure of the company mr.

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Steve Wells who was a UFO researcher

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based in we'll check Steve has had an

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avid interest in the UFO phenomena since

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the early 1980s after reading his

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father's collection of the unexplained

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magazines which set him off in that

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direction and he writes articles for

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magazines and books and is a contributor

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to the haunted sky Sirius no doubt many

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of you are aware of tonight Steve's

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gonna talk to us about what the locals

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have dubbed as the warminster thing

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which involves UFO sightings going back

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to the mid 1960s over Cradle Hill and

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clay Hill is that right

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yeah okay the warminster has several

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hills that are ancient in our marks and

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spot

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ancient historic structures including

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battles free Hills star Hill copy

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Bay Hill and Cradle Hill which is quite

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close to an army base actually thing

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else right isn't it yeah now during the

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sixties strange loud noises of bright

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lights were observed in the area which

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attracted so much interest that people

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are actually camping out on Cradle Hill

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to observe what was actually going on

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now while Steve has looked at the matter

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and death has been able to explain away

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a few of the sightings there's a huge

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amount that is still totally

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explainable and he we're not going to

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give any more away so please give a warm

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super welcome to mr. Steve wills thank

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good evening before I start yeah thanks

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to Steve Mike and Emily will invite me

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along

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I've been following what sue phone's

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been doing in terms of their

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investigations and their there they're

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actually out there investigating and

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putting this information out to all you

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guys and they're doing and they're

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upfront on you know various social media

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such YouTube and Facebook and the like

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so whatever you guys cuz I think that's

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the blueprint for what a lot of group

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should be doing so well don't you okay

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yeah as okay okay Cheers

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okay is that bad yeah okay

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yeah the advertised title is the

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warminster thing revisited I might

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deviate slightly from my says there in

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his matches I might be going through

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some of the investigations in which

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myself and John Hanson actually did for

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the homeless cries will Chesham which

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nineteen-sixties sightings which perhaps

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most people to be here familiar with

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anyway Kevin Goodman there's a excellent

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talk on the warminster thing of the

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mid-60s onwards but we're do a general

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then we're perhaps look to move on and

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do look at some of the other more

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interesting cases okay so next okay all

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this is just a map there as a general

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area of where warminster is it sits on

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the a 36 from Bath to Salisbury so we're

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name's Bree of course

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in the news for the wrong reasons of

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late you know but yeah there it's it's

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warm it's still in the middle this

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okay so if we look at some of the

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folklore we go back you know prior to

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the science we always look at these

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areas and perhaps some sometimes there's

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something there this suggests that other

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things were going on in the in the

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distant past so if it's written in the

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folklore of the town that at one point

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clay Hale was said to have been the home

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of the fairies kit to the king of the

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fairies and small figures and lights was

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seen there and as addition the legends

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of treasure and ritual rites which

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occurred in that area and the particular

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piece of art there is by an artist

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called Paul Boswell Ian who's quite

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local so big and firm for providing that

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okay so we're now going into the some of

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the original what counts were occurred

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much there it wasn't UFO sightings which

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started with a strange peculiar noise

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Christ Church which is pictured there

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now these strange noises were said to

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have assailed her you know to her you

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know senseless and she was really weak

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and jelly need and stuck to the spot

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this was kind of the genesis of the the

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thing but there were a couple of other

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interesting noises which were reported

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milk cam this is just outside of that

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that a Christchurch that was said to

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have being me it sounds over the the

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roofs back and the roof of all the

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buildings were said to have been sounded

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as though they'd been lifted and smashed

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across the floor so they were hearing

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element because obviously when they went

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okay this is one of the many hills that

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extra 3,000 from the military clay Hill

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quite atmospheric photos yes clay Hill

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David feast it's a good favor because it

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the hills associated with warminster so

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other large Hill is battles Bree and if

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a lot of the places which was written

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about in the original books by are for

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again a clay Hill clay Hill incidentally

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terms of style watch him a lot of people

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came to that came came there to as the

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sky watch cradle hill the famous cradle

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here which we just saw a last photograph

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this was the famous area for sky watches

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he said during that period that on a

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Saturday night there could be a

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200 150 people there which seems you

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know he sounds crazy but apparently this

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was a regular occurrence next slide okay

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this is the haunted skies books as you

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might not obviously know John and Dawn

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have been pursuing this and you know

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these books they've been doing the kind

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of doing the hard slog for about 20

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years and you know they now they're now

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up sort of think volume 11 volume 11 a

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lot of those books are now being

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revamped the first four volumes and if

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anyone knows what these books like

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very thorough packed full of information

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some stuff you just won't hear anywhere

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else you know they've really done that

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they've done the slog in putting these

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books out so I'd have to give a big big

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up to John and Dawn for that this

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particular volume was a special one-off

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2014 and initially pitched the idea that

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you know over the years that he'd been

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and visited Wiltshire so many times and

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you know acquired so much so many

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documentation zuv sightings

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and you know met so many people but you

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know it before we'd had to put put

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something out so this is this is that

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Aldi ma'am I've actually got it here

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anyone wants to come and see it later on

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but you can see like from the thing is

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packed to the rafters with info okay

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next now does anyone know this gentleman

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is okay this is our official wood now

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now after Sherwood became very much

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essential figure to the warm it's the

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UFO phenomenon he he was he had been a

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local councillor but subsequently he

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ended up being a

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for the local newspaper which was the

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warminster Journal now Arthur I'd heard

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about these strange sounds in the first

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instance we'll be talking about from the

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time line and obviously knew that a good

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story when he heard one he knew he knew

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that this could be a big thing for the

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town so subsequently in 1968 I believe

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first his first book was the warminster

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mystery which obviously detailed the

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stuff what was going on in the town over

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the years he's been open to criticism in

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terms of embellishing certain things not

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not lying but he had a certain right in

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style which kind of sets things up a bit

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you know but yeah he was very much a

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central figure and he was a skywatcher

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exam almost every weekend for you know

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weeks and months and years on end so

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next slightly okay anyone know this

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okay this is J Allen Hynek okay he

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visited the town and this favorites

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courtesy of idiot Miss Lee God and he's

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looking visited warminster and a

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neighboring village called Upton Scully

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Moon which it had also had sightings and

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it's right on the cusp of warminster and

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he's looking at what not well not a crop

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circle but a crop depression of types

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and looks like yeah there he is there

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may be if I said who's that you might

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have got it yeah so he's you know you

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know a crop depression not not obviously

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not a not a circle or a elaborate

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crop circles were reported around

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warming still in the very early days

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some of them even in the 70s and indeed

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the early 80s now as we said these

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weren't elaborate pictograms these were

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very basic circles or in this case just

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a crop depression and back then you

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follow gists were looking at researching

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it in terms of these being what was

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called UFO landing nests they weren't

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they weren't actually calling them crop

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circles they will you fo land in the

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nests okay thanks thanks okay this is in

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the warminster library there is a park

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devoted to a museum and archives now one

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of them we just seen alpha shuttle would

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skywatching team members was a

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journalist who moved from London to

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warminster especially to kind of nut

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down and get involved with what was

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going on down there and turn

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investigation and that was a guy called

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Ken Rogers now Ken Rogers died in the

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mid 90s but he bequeathed all his files

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his MIDI files and research notes to the

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town that ain't all it by the way many

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of that's just stat there's a couple of

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there's a couple of boxes which relate

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to the ball Minister stuff for memes

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next slide please

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okay this is again from Ken Rogers his

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file showing the famous Gordon Falkner

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photograph there which which seem to be

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de turning point for many I mean as we

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said there was many strange sounds heard

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in the first incidence but by the summer

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of 1965 people who started seeing UFOs

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now the most common shaped them was not

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so much sources they were saying

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elliptical shaped cigar shapes and and

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these what are for quaint and began

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blurs which were these orange

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luminosities you know possibly plasma

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type UFOs but on the just prior to the

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bank holiday weekend of August yeah

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young man called Gordon Faulkner took a

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photo of what what kind of warmest on

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the map there was a center page spread

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in the Daily Mirror showing this

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particular object which he said to have

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caught the the black and white

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book on the left-hand side the cover

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that is the warmest triangle which Ken

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Rogers actually wrote the next slide

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okay this is this is detailing a

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particular landing case which occurred

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in Warminster

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they're in too much detail to be honest

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I've been through those files quite

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thoroughly and there is a a report but

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not too much detail but this is said to

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have been the craft which was seem to

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have landed in the Lord's hill area of

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the town okay next slide okay this is

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John Hanson on the right and courtesy of

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the Allen Hynek pay this is Ian Mosley

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globe here Ian Ian was a Bristol based

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UFO investigator again he actually was

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one of the first people to investigate

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what we would call now called crop

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circles but like I said he wouldn't at

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that time he was looking at him in terms

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of them being UFO Mountain nests slide I

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think that's I think I don't think we've

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that's a repeater that's a duplicate so

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okay this is an area called copy it's

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it's a right slap-bang in the middle of

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the town almost it's said to have you

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know Anglo Saxon chieftain was buried on

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its summit and the cops terrier there is

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where one of the very first UFO

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sightings which was by a guy who worked

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for the local council by the name of

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Charles herd now I think he was doing

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early morning work he's just clocking on

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or clocking off and what he said was he

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saw a red hot pot poker at the way

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described it red hot poker which was

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said to have been kind of discovery and

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hanging over the tops of the trees there

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I came in Floyd okay this is this is the

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warminster central carpark and that is

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actually copy you can see just over over

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the browser roost there on the right on

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the particular wall there there was

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graffiti which was done as part of the

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2015 50th anniversary a local artist

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done that mule particular mural next

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line

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okay well it's this is this is

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skywatchers this was on the comm and

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this was earlier this year this was

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earlier this year now a lot of these sky

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watchers are some of the original the

397
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original guys but the second generation

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they were there in the 1970s and these

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these days it's more about a social

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event as opposed to any serious car

401
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watching people do have their own trains

402
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at the sky of course burn some you know

403
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,139
it's more of a social event if you can

404
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actually this is right on this is on the

405
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top of Cradle Hill now cradle here is

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the most accessible accessible here

407
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where you can drive drive directly to

408
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the top you know I think that's why it

409
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:12,960
probably was one of them all killer

410
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:17,130
locations back back in 1960s but guy

411
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there on the on the left with the camera

412
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is named David Simpson David Simpson

413
00:22:29,899 --> 00:22:27,389
orchestrated a number of hoaxes back in

414
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the 1960s and he done the Graham

415
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warminster now he what he called

416
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controlled hoax him so he was what he

417
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:40,710
what he was testing was the basis of sky

418
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:45,110
watches and their ability to maybe to

419
00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:50,490
exaggerate so he let off balloons full

420
00:22:56,779 --> 00:22:54,149
of like helium small helium balloons

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00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,789
with flashbulb camera flash bulbs

422
00:23:02,090 --> 00:22:59,159
attached they would go off from a

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location at the back of battles Bri

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00:23:08,269 --> 00:23:05,490
he'll come across and obviously a lot

425
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:08,279
the sky watchers picked this up but what

426
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:09,899
he was trying to do was to establish

427
00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:11,100
whether or not

428
00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:13,350
embellishment of the things it would say

429
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:16,260
craft as opposed to describe what they

430
00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:16,860
were seeing

431
00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:22,230
so I mean uh I don't know if it was an

432
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:24,840
experiment or not but that's baby suits

433
00:23:33,310 --> 00:23:29,490
in now next slide and I saw the Hynek

434
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:33,320
again okay do you know again the famous

435
00:23:41,690 --> 00:23:38,520
cradle Hill has a bar now now this was

436
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:41,700
dabbed on the bar like our member it's

437
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:43,770
it's not discernible now it's almost

438
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:46,289
faded away this is probably but taken

439
00:23:49,610 --> 00:23:47,370
ten years or more

440
00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:49,620
we don't know we've done there but the

441
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:52,289
barn in particular is an inter is

442
00:24:01,820 --> 00:23:57,210
interested in around the area and during

443
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,830
the during the height of the year kind

444
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:04,799
of UFO phenomena in the 60s that bomb

445
00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:06,780
was an area which people kind of huddled

446
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:09,000
round in that and they were here what

447
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:10,650
they were called the invisible Walker

448
00:24:15,860 --> 00:24:13,890
and the invisible Walker was just

449
00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:15,870
footsteps they could hear straight foot

450
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:18,900
set gravel around there odd footsteps of

451
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:22,289
her home there and myself and a member

452
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:28,799
of our sky watches I've had a few odd

453
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:30,210
experiences there on one particular

454
00:24:37,159 --> 00:24:33,750
occasion we were we were down by the

455
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:37,169
gates which were it's about 100 yards or

456
00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:39,900
so down that down the down the road we'd

457
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:42,990
walk about 1:00 in the morning from a

458
00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:48,809
assembled group and we had stones being

459
00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:51,990
wrapped at the bomb strange yeah and

460
00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:53,940
they were doing it they were doing on

461
00:25:01,640 --> 00:24:56,520
request so I mean I don't know what that

462
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:01,650
was all about that that happened the

463
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,090
other thing though there was a guy

464
00:25:08,830 --> 00:25:06,960
during the 1980 who had he was in and

465
00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:08,840
around that particular area called Chris

466
00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:12,929
Trubridge who actually saw what he

467
00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:16,169
believed across the fields from work

468
00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:20,460
from the bomb which he saw a craft or

469
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:21,900
Sam saw said

470
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:26,820
touchdown in a field now as he

471
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:29,400
approached left this particular location

472
00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:31,650
and prankster field he saw what he

473
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:36,140
described as a seven-foot entity now the

474
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:39,120
the entity approached it and then he

475
00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:42,810
kind of he had kind of fear instilled

476
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:45,180
into him he believes that was that was

477
00:25:50,690 --> 00:25:48,210
the case and the entity was said to have

478
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:50,700
raised his right arm like this and

479
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:53,700
vanished so that's one of the he

480
00:26:02,170 --> 00:25:55,620
accounts from around that particular

481
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:05,180
okay this is this is the Gordon Faulkner

482
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:08,730
and this is the the young factory worker

483
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:12,330
who said to have snapped the picture he

484
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:14,610
was he said it was a one-in-a-million

485
00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:15,120
shot

486
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:17,160
he was happened he happened to be taking

487
00:26:23,570 --> 00:26:19,410
his camera around to his sister's house

488
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:23,580
he wanted to borrow it and he looked

489
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:25,260
over the top of the house stopped it and

490
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:28,410
that particular UFO was floating around

491
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:32,970
and he managed to snap it now like I

492
00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:35,670
said this was the actual account and the

493
00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:37,320
photos back there but we see again in

494
00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:40,590
the minute next slide please

495
00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:43,920
this is the photograph okay this is the

496
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:45,780
famous what and this actually went

497
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:49,770
around that went round the world this

498
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:52,500
particular picture this is courtesy of

499
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:54,510
John Hanson

500
00:27:00,920 --> 00:26:59,250
it shows the roof TV area on the roof

501
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:00,930
normally when we see this particular

502
00:27:08,030 --> 00:27:04,290
photo it seems to be so blown up but you

503
00:27:12,770 --> 00:27:08,040
can't actually identify any kind of any

504
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:12,780
real details but the photo is is

505
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:15,480
controversial in around the telling of

506
00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:23,400
the 1990s a an expat now living in the

507
00:27:31,690 --> 00:27:28,230
in Australia contacted Beaufort and John

508
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:34,840
and he actually said that he was

509
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:38,510
complicit along with Gordon hoaxing this

510
00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:42,310
particular picture now

511
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:44,870
joined his top book weeks during his

512
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,210
interview with John Spencer he actually

513
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:50,000
saw says that yeah what we did we we

514
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:54,110
drove up to cradle hill and we made a I

515
00:28:00,790 --> 00:27:56,270
think that he made it out of a cotton

516
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:00,800
reel and a bottle top that I don't know

517
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:03,530
I mean he said he didn't throw it up it

518
00:28:08,650 --> 00:28:05,930
it cradle here to take that shot because

519
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:08,660
there's no TV Aires and this is actually

520
00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:12,200
the rooftops of South Beach so I don't

521
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:15,430
know on the other side of the coin

522
00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:18,140
golden Faulkner's suggests that he took

523
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:22,580
this photo eight o'clock on the common

524
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:27,730
in talent of august which to me he seems

525
00:28:32,980 --> 00:28:30,080
but he wouldn't have got a shot like

526
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:32,990
that at that time he obviously had been

527
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:35,990
to darken and back then those kind of

528
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:37,490
cameras didn't have their kind of low

529
00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:41,270
lighting or thing to to bring up so as i

530
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:43,780
say that photo is controversial but

531
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:46,010
regardless of whether it was a hoax or

532
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:48,890
not what it did it actually brought me

533
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:52,880
brought it to the attention of the the

534
00:28:58,330 --> 00:28:56,720
media and and the public at large so you

535
00:29:00,940 --> 00:28:58,340
know regardless of whether it was a hoax

536
00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:00,950
or not you know the underlining thing

537
00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:04,070
was people have been seeing UFOs here in

538
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:08,990
the strange noises for over six six

539
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:14,960
months next okay well there here there

540
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:16,460
is this is that this is the guy who

541
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:20,750
actually contacted the the Roger Luton

542
00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:22,850
was guy's name and living in Adelaide

543
00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:23,960
South Australia

544
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,389
warminster thing so yeah what what he

545
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:36,320
did he contacted them and said it was

546
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:39,679
all a hoax Roger

547
00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:42,289
sorry called Gordon Faulkner responded

548
00:29:47,139 --> 00:29:45,320
by saying no it wasn't he said yes it

549
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,149
was and he said no it wasn't till we

550
00:29:55,539 --> 00:29:50,000
went under old wiser really I've spoken

551
00:29:57,159 --> 00:29:55,549
to a Gordon's daughter and she spoke at

552
00:30:00,580 --> 00:29:57,169
some length and she actually said to me

553
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:00,590
that well you know if it was a hope dad

554
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:02,210
never let on over the years he always

555
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:21,000
okay right okay this is this is a case

556
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:23,020
for I particularly looked into and I

557
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:25,809
contacted this lady who was called but

558
00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:33,250
Linda Saunders absolutely well okay this

559
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:35,830
is Belinda as I say and her case happens

560
00:30:45,870 --> 00:30:41,289
around about 1986-87 100% sure 86 87 but

561
00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:45,880
again she lived very close proximity to

562
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:51,220
clay Hill she was with her boyfriend at

563
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:55,780
the time in a car and see what they

564
00:30:59,039 --> 00:30:58,240
observed is that they as she drove out

565
00:31:03,000 --> 00:30:59,049
of the driveway

566
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:03,010
she said that a strange ball of light

567
00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:06,340
came from an area which where they had

568
00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:09,549
the stables which swooped down towards

569
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:12,429
the car lifted upwards and passed

570
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:16,840
directly away disappearing very odd very

571
00:31:20,970 --> 00:31:18,450
strange

572
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,980
she actually answered the pit appeal we

573
00:31:27,899 --> 00:31:23,679
put we put I guess you guys do put peels

574
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:27,909
into local newspapers and like Belinda

575
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:29,710
come up and gave that story was very

576
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:39,360
okay that again this is a duplicate okay

577
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:44,650
this is a guy called Steve Mayberry now

578
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:48,070
Steve Maybury he's an author in his own

579
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:48,580
right

580
00:31:56,850 --> 00:31:52,049
however he had a UFO sighting in around

581
00:32:01,230 --> 00:31:56,860
1996 again we've talked about an area

582
00:32:04,169 --> 00:32:01,240
outside of always locales that is

583
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:04,179
something and Lourdes Hill I've got a

584
00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:07,030
favor of Lord so unfortunately but this

585
00:32:14,010 --> 00:32:09,940
is Steve Mayberry and again he was in a

586
00:32:16,919 --> 00:32:14,020
car park with a group of friends I think

587
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:16,929
he had a girlfriend his friend and and

588
00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:20,200
his friend's girlfriend and they happen

589
00:32:26,889 --> 00:32:23,020
to be just milling around in and out of

590
00:32:32,349 --> 00:32:26,899
the car and what he discerned was

591
00:32:35,049 --> 00:32:32,359
a kind of explosion explosions sky and

592
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:35,059
then almost like a some sort of

593
00:32:41,139 --> 00:32:38,299
projectile emerging from it now he

594
00:32:45,009 --> 00:32:41,149
destroyed this is almost being bullet

595
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:45,019
like and I think it was it destroyed

596
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:47,210
it's almost looking some similar to

597
00:32:55,419 --> 00:32:51,200
glass they kind of followed the

598
00:32:57,729 --> 00:32:55,429
trajectory of it it seemed to go down go

599
00:33:00,099 --> 00:32:57,739
down onto the onto the ground they tried

600
00:33:01,930 --> 00:33:00,109
to follow it and run across the fields

601
00:33:03,729 --> 00:33:01,940
of that but when where that what they

602
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:03,739
got where they discerned this thing

603
00:33:11,339 --> 00:33:07,039
might have come down there was nothing

604
00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:11,349
okay I can I solve the show it again

605
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,580
okay this is a guy called David Monday

606
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:18,080
again David Monday's want to go people

607
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:22,320
who actually contacted myself and John

608
00:33:28,779 --> 00:33:23,710
[Music]

609
00:33:32,369 --> 00:33:28,789
David lives in Portsmouth and is a big

610
00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:32,379
Pompey football phone now his particular

611
00:33:39,489 --> 00:33:37,489
sighting occurred in 1980 and he was on

612
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:39,499
one of these football special trains

613
00:33:46,659 --> 00:33:43,519
which back in you know back in the 1980s

614
00:33:49,779 --> 00:33:46,669
when there was kind of troubles on the

615
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:49,789
terraces they went put football special

616
00:33:54,969 --> 00:33:51,710
trains on and ferry to the straight to

617
00:33:58,779 --> 00:33:54,979
the to the destinations and he was going

618
00:34:00,669 --> 00:33:58,789
to a game I think Bristol Rovers or

619
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,679
Bristol say cause of his play at Bristol

620
00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:03,679
Rovers of Bristol see so they've left

621
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:05,960
the spaceship at a certain time I think

622
00:34:14,169 --> 00:34:09,049
it was 4:35 something it was an evening

623
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,179
game and they soon passed past

624
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:16,159
Southampton and then directly in

625
00:34:22,329 --> 00:34:19,399
Salisbury now not far

626
00:34:23,490 --> 00:34:22,339
not long after dataset often Souls be

627
00:34:27,339 --> 00:34:23,500
was twenty minutes or so

628
00:34:31,089 --> 00:34:27,349
they he absorbed observed what they

629
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:31,099
described as a huge Sun type object

630
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:33,919
which was floating from an area which he

631
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:35,810
now knows was stopped and

632
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:37,610
she's very close to confid which is

633
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,770
close to warminster now he said that the

634
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:44,720
majority of people on that train would

635
00:34:48,930 --> 00:34:46,790
have seen them and he was pointing it

636
00:34:51,730 --> 00:34:48,940
him and his brother were pointing to a

637
00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:51,740
lot of the Portsmouth supporters who

638
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:53,990
actually travel on the train and he says

639
00:35:02,020 --> 00:34:58,240
for lots of people that have seen that I

640
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:02,030
think he subsequently tried to contact

641
00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:06,110
the local newspaper looking for special

642
00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:08,660
said work do you remember that game and

643
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:11,150
her but he hasn't really heard anything

644
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:18,940
back as yeah okay now this was just a

645
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:21,050
sighting occurred again

646
00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:26,390
close to clay Hill by the coop family

647
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:30,470
now this was in Thailand of the 1998

648
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:35,990
look so yeah she saw a UFO where weak

649
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:40,130
man wrote a note to the teacher because

650
00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:44,030
she didn't want the pupils to tease the

651
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,920
children apparently the Disney Channel

652
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:50,480
got wind of it and they did a little

653
00:36:02,800 --> 00:35:54,650
snip it on one of the TV shows

654
00:36:06,850 --> 00:36:02,810
yeah next okay this is from the pages

655
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:06,860
back pages of the journal this is this

656
00:36:11,020 --> 00:36:08,660
is in the light of what we were talking

657
00:36:12,850 --> 00:36:11,030
about earlier when the kind of tone and

658
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:12,860
throwing between gold and the Faulkner

659
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,950
and Roger who but as the the guy who

660
00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:20,960
wrote in which i think is chris

661
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:24,200
Trubridge as sent an ad that the thing

662
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:25,790
hopes was not the only site and of

663
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:27,970
course he's absolutely right there was

664
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:30,800
dozens upon dozens of sightings over the

665
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:34,010
years hundreds in fact most of them

666
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:36,590
would have been lights in the sky type

667
00:36:42,070 --> 00:36:40,610
science however you know there were so

668
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:42,080
many of these over the

669
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:46,060
you know you know if you looked at the

670
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:48,800
famous thing photograph which we looked

671
00:36:55,570 --> 00:36:51,110
at earlier on and sort of said it was

672
00:37:00,070 --> 00:36:55,580
all about that it certainly wasn't okay

673
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:00,080
next mind okay this is a piece we talked

674
00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:04,490
about crop circles as they were back

675
00:37:10,810 --> 00:37:08,300
there and being labeled as landing nest

676
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:10,820
this is middle here we can see the

677
00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:13,490
little little cops with the barrel on

678
00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:16,520
top and this is a crop circle shop that

679
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:23,180
appeared 2007 of 2017 I believe now

680
00:37:31,930 --> 00:37:28,970
interestingly myself and Matt Kevin

681
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,940
Goodman were approached and John Hanson

682
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,000
was approached by a Bournemouth

683
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:37,040
production company to do a little bit of

684
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:40,970
a documentary which hasn't gone out as

685
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,510
yeah but whilst in the in that

686
00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:46,880
particular circle the sound crew

687
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:51,860
experienced stuff dropping out on on

688
00:37:56,830 --> 00:37:54,310
their equipment equipment malfunctions

689
00:37:59,230 --> 00:37:56,840
they'd come away from the center of the

690
00:38:01,600 --> 00:37:59,240
circle come out of there it would cut

691
00:38:02,740 --> 00:38:01,610
back on line soon as they go back in it

692
00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:02,750
drop out again

693
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:07,670
now I it's it's my consideration that

694
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:10,340
most crop circles are in fact man-made

695
00:38:16,030 --> 00:38:14,000
but you still had these odd strange

696
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:16,040
things which occur and incur it within

697
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:20,810
crop circles that particular one as I

698
00:38:26,830 --> 00:38:23,330
say was in between battles burry and

699
00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:26,840
star hail I think I've got a bit of

700
00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:29,180
video in a minute here but I think

701
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:34,940
there's a video can we have a look yeah

702
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:38,090
Keep Calm Sky Watch should be a should

703
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:41,690
be a couple of videos on this you can't

704
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:51,500
was filmed by a Bristol Bristol based

705
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,670
company production company were in the

706
00:39:11,870 --> 00:38:55,740
town making a video when they caught

707
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:11,880
caught this particular logjam this

708
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:15,420
disappears now I mean we have to we have

709
00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:17,400
to remember that woman's store is right

710
00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:19,740
on the cusp of the souls be playing now

711
00:39:26,090 --> 00:39:22,920
you know and you know the army there

712
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:26,100
with flare so deeper flares and the like

713
00:39:29,570 --> 00:39:27,630
sort of regular carriage now whether

714
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:29,580
that was a flower or not I don't know I

715
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:32,690
don't think so it may well have been a

716
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:35,970
reflection on some sort of Ellicott who

717
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:37,710
knows but it does seem a bit strange

718
00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:41,119
like you say the people that's not

719
00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:03,150
[Music]

720
00:40:07,959 --> 00:40:06,279
okay this is a this is a clay is a clay

721
00:40:13,179 --> 00:40:07,969
Hill crop-circle for the round I think

722
00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:13,189
of 2010 yeah now there's a small white

723
00:40:28,170 --> 00:40:14,989
dot light which you'll appears in a

724
00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:37,609
seems to be Nibin on and off as it goes

725
00:40:37,619 --> 00:41:03,190
yeah

726
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:07,150
okay well I mean both balls of life

727
00:41:12,289 --> 00:41:09,930
prevalent within people have seen him in

728
00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:12,299
and around crop circle 7:00 a.m. if

729
00:41:19,759 --> 00:41:15,660
there's a number of these sort of type

730
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:19,769
of footage of the balls of light well I

731
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:21,210
mean a lot of people have said it's a

732
00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:23,220
bird or some who knows I mean the

733
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:25,230
definition and great you can't discern

734
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:28,529
it particularly well can you I don't

735
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:30,930
know it could be a bird I personally

736
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:33,839
think that there is somewhat some

737
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:36,569
footage where the the balls are like I'm

738
00:41:48,019 --> 00:41:39,240
moving so fast that it'd be hard to

739
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,029
suggest it was a bird ID but flapping

740
00:42:08,780 --> 00:41:50,640
yeah take your point you know take your

741
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:25,290
they called it the warminster thing

742
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:42,929
[Music]

743
00:43:00,159 --> 00:42:55,769
between its no I don't know is it was

744
00:43:06,009 --> 00:43:00,169
King Dan you know it was a bit misty

745
00:43:07,059 --> 00:43:06,019
foggy and it was like as if ten candles

746
00:43:09,249 --> 00:43:07,069
floating nuts-and-bolts you know

747
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:09,259
somebody was right minute what I did see

748
00:43:12,059 --> 00:43:11,209
was a green shimmering light for about

749
00:43:14,499 --> 00:43:12,069
quarter an hour

750
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:14,509
explain used to like a bright light with

751
00:43:21,069 --> 00:43:16,910
a big light in the middle like sugar

752
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,079
cigar she glowing at each ending I saw

753
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:22,880
something over there to clean those two

754
00:43:27,009 --> 00:43:25,249
bungalows and to me it looked as if it

755
00:43:30,339 --> 00:43:27,019
was about five hundred feet high

756
00:43:31,959 --> 00:43:30,349
no high it seemed to be hovering it

757
00:43:34,749 --> 00:43:31,969
resembles something like a comet that

758
00:43:37,539 --> 00:43:34,759
comets are white so this one was orange

759
00:43:39,099 --> 00:43:37,549
color so so he wasn't a comment they

760
00:43:40,929 --> 00:43:39,109
very well might be something in the

761
00:43:43,089 --> 00:43:40,939
stratosphere I mean we're sending

762
00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:43,099
spaceships to other planets and I can't

763
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:44,599
see any reason why if there is life on

764
00:43:49,659 --> 00:43:46,089
another planet they shouldn't be sending

765
00:43:51,249 --> 00:43:49,669
craft of us obviously these things

766
00:43:52,919 --> 00:43:51,259
whatever they are infinitely

767
00:43:55,539 --> 00:43:52,929
maneuverable and they're certainly

768
00:43:57,269 --> 00:43:55,549
beyond our ability to catch they can't

769
00:44:01,809 --> 00:43:57,279
put salt on their tails

770
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:01,819
tell me what you saw just an object in

771
00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:04,350
this scholar what did it look like

772
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:08,340
like a saucer and we'll already like you

773
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:12,630
know it's just a white object we were

774
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:15,630
busy India if we hadn't come back but

775
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:17,010
the three soldiers that were there under

776
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:19,710
stay away Superboy and they describe it

777
00:44:28,850 --> 00:44:25,050
more or less like the lampshade I still

778
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:28,860
don't think there's anything I think

779
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:32,400
just a laudatory hundreds perhaps

780
00:44:36,610 --> 00:44:34,200
thousands of people were convinced that

781
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:36,620
creatures from outer space had arrived

782
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:39,330
excitement grew to fear so much so that

783
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:42,960
on August the 27th 1965 the Council

784
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:44,850
Chairman took the extraordinary step of

785
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:47,130
calling a public meeting the Town Hall

786
00:44:53,330 --> 00:44:49,650
was besieged and the warminster legend

787
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:53,340
had begun I had never seen anything like

788
00:45:00,440 --> 00:44:56,490
it that Friday evening it was fantastic

789
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:00,450
the people in the town the reporters and

790
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:03,060
all the dailies my phone didn't stop

791
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:03,810
ringing

792
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:06,090
we had them knocking at the doors I've

793
00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:07,380
never seen anything like it

794
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:09,840
the only thing I could do on Monday

795
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,180
morning I went on holiday to get away

796
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:12,960
from it

797
00:45:22,130 --> 00:45:19,110
it started off Christmas Eve 1964 which

798
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:22,140
we published a very respected member of

799
00:45:28,970 --> 00:45:26,490
all mr. Toastmaster actually he reckoned

800
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:28,980
he'd heard strange noises on Christmas

801
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Eve rattling on the roof no no one calls

802
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:36,690
and really I suppose that's what started

803
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:39,960
it and from then it snow board reports

804
00:45:44,570 --> 00:45:42,750
multiplied he reshapes ghostly lights in

805
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:44,580
the sky and more than anything that

806
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:48,210
awful terrifying noise from all over the

807
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:50,370
world the Watchers came scanning the

808
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:51,960
skies from the hilltops around this

809
00:45:57,009 --> 00:45:54,390
wheelchair market town in four months

810
00:47:30,219 --> 00:45:57,019
400 sightings have been reported

811
00:47:33,249 --> 00:47:30,229
in the shops it's a danger for these

812
00:47:39,789 --> 00:47:33,259
light sources I would say can't be rule

813
00:47:41,429 --> 00:47:39,799
that so far there'll be no extra cost if

814
00:47:45,189 --> 00:47:41,439
she didn't the DA said it should be snug

815
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:45,199
there are some slim is another

816
00:47:54,670 --> 00:47:49,200
interpretation under sense

817
00:47:56,780 --> 00:47:54,680
we're a little bit later on even longer

818
00:48:00,049 --> 00:47:56,790
but we are imagined

819
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:00,059
warminster was in ferment indeed it was

820
00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:02,609
activity was sent on the two great hills

821
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,500
outside the town right so samples from

822
00:48:15,020 --> 00:48:12,720
key areas turned up the remains of moles

823
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:15,030
and mice their bodies riddled with tiny

824
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:18,480
holes it was the greatest story the

825
00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:20,970
little woman's to journal ever had it

826
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:22,950
had all begun quite enough at Christmas

827
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,230
tucked away beneath their New Year

828
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:26,960
calendar was a report of a noise

829
00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:30,329
unearthly and terrifying suddenly the

830
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:32,099
silence was broken by a crackling sound

831
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:34,410
emanating from the bell Hill direction

832
00:48:38,839 --> 00:48:36,510
at first she thought that it was simply

833
00:48:40,789 --> 00:48:38,849
a lorry unloading on the hill but it

834
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:40,799
passed over her head and became louder

835
00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:44,280
and louder letters began to arrive more

836
00:48:48,380 --> 00:48:46,680
reports followed but even then the story

837
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:48,390
was almost hidden below the births

838
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:50,730
marriages and deaths the farm reports

839
00:48:55,609 --> 00:48:53,910
and the adverts that menacing vibrating

840
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:55,619
noise has been heard again in Warminster

841
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,380
the shock waves of sound which can kill

842
00:49:02,329 --> 00:49:00,839
them made birds and stunned the senses

843
00:49:05,059 --> 00:49:02,339
of rational people

844
00:49:07,279 --> 00:49:05,069
finally belatedly it made the headline

845
00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:07,289
and after that and for the next ten

846
00:49:11,449 --> 00:49:09,420
years of more stories about creatures

847
00:49:14,739 --> 00:49:11,459
from other planets became part of the

848
00:49:17,449 --> 00:49:14,749
staple diet in the newspaper columns

849
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:17,459
barely two days after the public meeting

850
00:49:22,249 --> 00:49:19,650
held in Warminster town all to discuss

851
00:49:24,259 --> 00:49:22,259
and try to identify the thing it has

852
00:49:26,989 --> 00:49:24,269
been seen by at least five people over

853
00:49:29,059 --> 00:49:26,999
the bank holiday period whether you

854
00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:29,069
believed it all or not the stories of

855
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:30,630
the experiences of the people of

856
00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:37,819
he was shaking in every limb when he

857
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:40,380
staggered in doors his family were most

858
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:42,630
concerned but it was some time before he

859
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:44,819
told them with his peculiar experience

860
00:50:02,010 --> 00:49:47,730
on that walk through the darkness he saw

861
00:50:25,329 --> 00:50:08,960
[Music]

862
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:47,930
obvious or something but the stars in a

863
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:49,410
big way and then went around the world

864
00:50:56,329 --> 00:50:53,280
in fact much more on the flying saucer

865
00:50:58,970 --> 00:50:56,339
man this is how he got his picture I had

866
00:51:03,750 --> 00:50:58,980
a camera with me taking my sister

867
00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:03,760
Department and come with me

868
00:51:09,819 --> 00:51:06,950
[Music]

869
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:09,829
the object was thanks to all the

870
00:51:17,170 --> 00:51:13,780
ordinary moving very slowly

871
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,180
when I say hospital that couldn't say

872
00:51:21,340 --> 00:51:19,760
madness now some people have said that

873
00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:21,350
when they try to take a picture one of

874
00:51:26,109 --> 00:51:22,940
these things as being some mysterious

875
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:26,119
force or radiation the cameraman working

876
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:28,450
did you find this minute some economic

877
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:30,770
have you had people say that this

878
00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:33,830
picture is a fake cosign what do you say

879
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:36,440
to them when they say that wasn't had

880
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:39,230
opinion I know it's not a thing and it

881
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:48,690
in Britain

882
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:53,190
why do you say that there isn't a single

883
00:52:03,210 --> 00:51:56,720
authenticated psyching by somebody who's

884
00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:03,220
who say in qualified to give impartial

885
00:52:09,130 --> 00:52:06,830
sacking no you believe I think it's

886
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:09,140
possible to think these objects very

887
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:20,450
easily yes real and so I produced two I

888
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:24,170
produce this and this is exactly what

889
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:27,680
well the the flying object was actually

890
00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:31,010
drawn on a piece of paper and cut out in

891
00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:33,740
outline and then photographed against a

892
00:52:37,540 --> 00:52:36,080
blue bath towel on the ground whilst I

893
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:37,550
stood on a step ladder leaning against

894
00:52:40,990 --> 00:52:39,530
the wall of the Hurst and I moved the

895
00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:41,000
cameras like as I took the photograph

896
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:43,220
supposed to blur the thing and one of

897
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,080
the reactions of the believers to this

898
00:52:48,910 --> 00:52:46,880
photograph edition it went well no I

899
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:48,920
kept it fairly quiet because I had

900
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:51,190
intended originally to bring it out

901
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:54,410
whilst the bidding it was a fake next

902
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,930
time the thing blew up

903
00:52:58,880 --> 00:52:58,480
which I'm sure it will do in fact at

904
00:53:01,160 --> 00:52:58,890
history

905
00:53:04,349 --> 00:53:01,170
[Music]

906
00:53:06,029 --> 00:53:04,359
number 42 Chapel Street warminster is

907
00:53:08,370 --> 00:53:06,039
out of this world

908
00:53:10,829 --> 00:53:08,380
it's Britain's first satellite station

909
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:10,839
for tracking unidentified flying objects

910
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:13,750
using binoculars in the hi pod telescope

911
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:16,569
the UFO brigade are mixing up a storm in

912
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:18,910
the Wiltshire heavens looking for Close

913
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,520
Encounters of the Third Kind when I was

914
00:53:25,710 --> 00:53:22,960
in the army of the time and it was a way

915
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,720
back in 64 and myself and two friends

916
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:28,000
were down the local park just over the

917
00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:31,210
road down and we saw these people

918
00:53:33,779 --> 00:53:32,920
looking into the sky and long they all

919
00:53:35,819 --> 00:53:33,789
there was a UFO

920
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:35,829
well I think it was a UFO is just a

921
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:38,049
cigar-shaped you know the typical great

922
00:53:41,069 --> 00:53:39,849
cigar-shaped in public for about 20

923
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:41,079
minutes over the church and that was all

924
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:43,450
the outdoor town

925
00:54:06,830 --> 00:53:46,370
[Music]

926
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:09,600
it's from this vantage point on cradle

927
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:12,490
he'll hire the warmest air the preferred

928
00:54:17,940 --> 00:54:15,910
society are hitching my wagon to star as

929
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:17,950
we are imaginary as you care to leave

930
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:21,040
they claim the sky ground war mr. a

931
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:23,530
littered with you ho junk which shines

932
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:25,690
on the faithful who come here for all in

933
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:26,700
the world

934
00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:29,830
on a clear day they say you can see

935
00:54:35,010 --> 00:54:33,070
practically anything strange lights a

936
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:35,020
brilliant color but a report is sneaking

937
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:37,450
across the sky sometimes hovering the

938
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:39,610
several minutes disappearing into his

939
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:42,790
sight more exaggerated claims speak of

940
00:54:47,490 --> 00:54:45,070
help like visitors coming down from

941
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:47,500
flying saucers and interrupting our

942
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:52,390
maneuvers at the infantry but seeing is

943
00:54:57,050 --> 00:54:55,180
believing still u-verse society and it's

944
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,060
true that more and more people

945
00:55:01,830 --> 00:54:59,920
disillusioned with life on earth want to

946
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:01,840
believe in a force outside their

947
00:55:06,930 --> 00:55:04,600
understanding for this reason the youth

948
00:55:09,150 --> 00:55:06,940
oh people are offering Star weekends

949
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:09,160
with bed and breakfast tossed in between

950
00:55:14,580 --> 00:55:12,400
the odd khalaqtu happening but the town

951
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,590
of warminster which is preparing for its

952
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:17,440
summer tourist season thinks UFOs are

953
00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:20,770
strictly non new overtures to the local

954
00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:22,420
Chamber of Commerce for more hotel

955
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:24,340
accommodation went down with as much

956
00:55:29,970 --> 00:55:26,440
conviction thus finding a black hole on

957
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:29,980
Salisbury Plain but undeterred the UFO

958
00:55:35,970 --> 00:55:33,640
society are fighting on inside a cottage

959
00:55:37,890 --> 00:55:35,980
they've bought and renovated for 11,000

960
00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:37,900
pounds they're hoping to whet the

961
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:40,600
imagination of start wreckers with youth

962
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:43,690
Oh badges stickers note paper books and

963
00:55:49,460 --> 00:55:47,110
t-shirts a mass of literature is being

964
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,470
gathered to awaken skeptical Minds

965
00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:52,240
photographs of actual sightings are on

966
00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:54,190
display although few of them have been

967
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:55,120
authenticated

968
00:56:00,200 --> 00:55:58,450
it's said that 90% of all reported

969
00:56:04,310 --> 00:56:00,210
sightings can be explained by natural

970
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:04,320
phenomena but what about the other 10%

971
00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:07,450
sally pike believes she witnessed the

972
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,380
real thing

973
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:10,480
the curse of sighting I've ever had I

974
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:12,970
believe was a star here at warminster

975
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:15,480
and that was a really good one

976
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:18,960
was closed up and why she said it Porter

977
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,420
a mile I suppose a large orange globe

978
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:23,760
floating across from the Stonehenge

979
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:25,770
direction right in front of about twelve

980
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:27,690
this was you know they were present at

981
00:56:32,510 --> 00:56:30,089
the time it was just Twilight and

982
00:56:34,579 --> 00:56:32,520
through binoculars when you observed

983
00:56:36,650 --> 00:56:34,589
this you could see the traditional dish

984
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:36,660
shape with the sort of orange light

985
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:38,430
flashing on the top and it followed the

986
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:41,430
contours of the hill that star and came

987
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:44,040
down you know fairly close at hand and

988
00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:45,510
it sort of hovered it was an actual

989
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:48,900
beautiful shot doing that okay as if it

990
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,960
opposed specially for us and then whilst

991
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:53,760
everybody watched at the right on the

992
00:57:00,260 --> 00:56:56,490
top change from the an orange to a white

993
00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:00,270
and it seemed to spin and that you know

994
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:02,220
it's visible there for boho I think it

995
00:57:05,420 --> 00:57:03,180
was two minutes

996
00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:05,430
the British UFO Society claimed that

997
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:07,500
people who come to warminster in search

998
00:57:12,289 --> 00:57:10,170
of terrestrial phenomena feel a form of

999
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:12,299
magnetic attraction which draws them

1000
00:57:17,059 --> 00:57:14,700
here that may be as high flown as

1001
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:17,069
Martians eating mashed potato but it

1002
00:57:22,339 --> 00:57:19,130
certainly helps newspaper circulations

1003
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:22,349
if warminster is to become a happy

1004
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:24,569
holiday ground for starstruck earthlings

1005
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:27,900
what's on author Ken Rogers a youth Oh

1006
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:30,390
director explains well we can put you up

1007
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:33,059
for weekends or even weeks holidays if

1008
00:57:37,549 --> 00:57:35,460
you wants to there's a shortage of

1009
00:57:39,950 --> 00:57:37,559
accommodation in the town hotel wise and

1010
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,960
here people can come Sky Watch at nights

1011
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:41,520
coming sort of in the early hours of the

1012
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,170
morning and so on they could also come

1013
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:45,119
and during the daytime and study you for

1014
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:47,609
literature writes do research and so on

1015
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:50,880
if I didn't see a youth would you give

1016
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:52,559
me my money back we can't go and see

1017
00:57:55,579 --> 00:57:53,790
that school to see a UFO we can't

1018
00:57:57,170 --> 00:57:55,589
guarantee that anybody will see anything

1019
00:57:59,089 --> 00:57:57,180
inexplicable there's been so much

1020
00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:59,099
evidence from just the local townspeople

1021
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,660
and from people from all over the

1022
00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:01,920
country and many parts the world who

1023
00:58:06,049 --> 00:58:04,380
have come here and seen and then which

1024
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:06,059
do is the most likely face to cover in

1025
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:07,290
any part of the country then they were

1026
00:58:12,859 --> 00:58:10,140
off and so it's up to the entire company

1027
00:58:15,049 --> 00:58:12,869
of flying saucers cigar-shaped objects

1028
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:15,059
bright lights and supporting androids to

1029
00:58:19,789 --> 00:58:17,400
get their little show lit up over the

1030
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:19,799
skies of warminster this summer the

1031
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:22,859
British UFO society are hoping the force

1032
00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:36,099
the skeptics were hard put to dismiss

1033
00:58:40,089 --> 00:58:38,030
some of the reports in the village of

1034
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:40,099
steeple Ashton doesn't experienced an

1035
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:42,650
encounter of the most peculiar kind the

1036
00:58:45,309 --> 00:58:44,210
champion a blue sweater now you you've

1037
00:58:50,650 --> 00:58:45,319
got a good of you but what do you think

1038
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:50,660
it was I think it was a bishop let's go

1039
00:58:55,780 --> 00:58:53,599
see well why do you think that in all

1040
00:58:59,740 --> 00:58:55,790
seriousness well I'm hopeful the middle

1041
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:59,750
but is it so hard from the outside the

1042
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:01,760
clouds couldn't pass through the outside

1043
00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:03,490
of it could go through the middle though

1044
00:59:09,609 --> 00:59:05,720
you ever see anything like it before

1045
00:59:11,799 --> 00:59:09,619
nope I'm how long were you able to see

1046
00:59:14,530 --> 00:59:11,809
it I was up in the window sort like

1047
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:14,540
three minutes three minutes was it so

1048
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:16,609
hovering or no it's just gone on like a

1049
00:59:21,099 --> 00:59:19,520
whale it's going over you got a good

1050
00:59:24,339 --> 00:59:21,109
view of it describe it to me

1051
00:59:27,309 --> 00:59:24,349
well sort of an black blackish gray wing

1052
00:59:28,839 --> 00:59:27,319
going across the sky it was dark on one

1053
00:59:30,609 --> 00:59:28,849
side and in the bottom that it sort of

1054
00:59:32,289 --> 00:59:30,619
got a line through it and it's moving

1055
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:32,299
across the sky Sloane and disappeared

1056
00:59:35,890 --> 00:59:34,490
going it's a mystery did you see that

1057
00:59:37,690 --> 00:59:35,900
the Phantom object yourself

1058
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:37,700
I saw it yes now how would you describe

1059
00:59:42,670 --> 00:59:39,410
it they're very much as the children did

1060
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:42,680
it appear to the earth a smoke ring but

1061
00:59:47,140 --> 00:59:44,450
you know that's the best way that I can

1062
00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:47,150
describe it as a smoke ring any theories

1063
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:50,030
as to what a no theories at all no no I

1064
00:59:54,130 --> 00:59:51,710
mean obviously people are gonna

1065
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:54,140
speculate men from Mars or what have you

1066
00:59:58,089 --> 00:59:56,690
I mean the only thing I can say rears

1067
01:00:00,370 --> 00:59:58,099
I'm glad there were a lot of other

1068
01:00:02,620 --> 01:00:00,380
people saw it at the same time as I do

1069
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:02,630
okay well I just want to show you that

1070
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:05,569
quick quick clip there about the steeple

1071
01:00:08,890 --> 01:00:07,250
Ashton because as powerless course of

1072
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:08,900
the brought even if he looked at the

1073
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:11,089
actual date then this backyard in

1074
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:15,770
January 3rd the January 1977 cause I

1075
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:19,609
think the broad Haven was February 77

1076
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:24,170
yeah yeah so yeah well that's it for me

1077
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:26,690
then folks thanks very much I'm happy to

1078
01:00:35,530 --> 01:00:28,530
take Q&A

1079
01:00:50,540 --> 01:00:35,540
[Applause]

1080
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:50,550
any questions oh yeah pretty much I mean

1081
01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:55,500
in the first few first month the

1082
01:01:01,910 --> 01:00:57,780
intensity of people described as what

1083
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:01,920
they a crack in a sonic noise I think

1084
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:03,930
one witness actually described it was

1085
01:01:11,930 --> 01:01:07,290
like branches being dragged across the

1086
01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:11,940
the roof tiles another person described

1087
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:15,000
it as being like hailstones raining down

1088
01:01:21,290 --> 01:01:18,480
so yeah I mean the the as I say the

1089
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:21,300
actual sounds and I think very much the

1090
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:23,910
work the warminster thing came about

1091
01:01:27,859 --> 01:01:26,220
because of the ambiguous nature at first

1092
01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:27,869
because there was there wasn't

1093
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,790
necessarily UFOs it was two strange

1094
01:01:35,060 --> 01:01:31,920
sounds and then the sounds are then

1095
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:35,070
attached to the UFOs light and so that's

1096
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:37,290
why I think it gets it's the thing plus

1097
01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:39,359
back in the in the sixties certainly in

1098
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:44,940
the UK UFOs probably weren't perhaps use

1099
01:01:49,820 --> 01:01:47,130
you know the word UFO would perhaps used

1100
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:49,830
in the medias and readily but yeah the

1101
01:01:58,050 --> 01:01:52,050
strange sounds which were pretty much is

1102
01:02:00,060 --> 01:01:58,060
that that person described in yeah

1103
01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:00,070
I heard described that you were third

1104
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:06,460
generations yeah now I mean third

1105
01:02:10,170 --> 01:02:08,770
generation the first the original sky

1106
01:02:11,730 --> 01:02:10,180
watches would have been the guys who

1107
01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:11,740
were doing it the office shirt which

1108
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:12,700
they would have been the first

1109
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:14,830
generation the second generation would

1110
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:16,450
have been the ones who come along in the

1111
01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:20,050
tail and the the one of the mid 70s into

1112
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:22,840
the 80s are they're from my part of you

1113
01:02:28,830 --> 01:02:25,360
my part of it I've kind of been you know

1114
01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:28,840
sky watching from 90s on weights and I'm

1115
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:34,600
obviously utilize certain cameras and he

1116
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:35,710
did yeah

1117
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:38,650
well yeah he had a number of books he

1118
01:02:44,790 --> 01:02:40,960
had gone to some of the various location

1119
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:44,800
oh she never told me if he'd add a other

1120
01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:46,570
sign but it was certainly interested in

1121
01:02:53,790 --> 01:02:49,540
that as I say had countless of books and

1122
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:53,800
magazines on the subject and back back

1123
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:56,010
on on the Sunday in the early eighties

1124
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:00,160
you know the TV supplement would have

1125
01:03:07,350 --> 01:03:03,810
been you know r4c Clarke's kind of

1126
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:07,360
program which as you said and then yeah

1127
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:10,810
any more questions am I wrong rotating

1128
01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:12,570
about the picture of the crop circles

1129
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:16,060
you showed you can see with it the lawn

1130
01:03:20,310 --> 01:03:17,770
mower or the track that had gone into

1131
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:20,320
that it was like sort of you know wheels

1132
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:30,310
are gone yeah yeah

1133
01:03:36,090 --> 01:03:33,280
in the corpse a koozie it seemed it does

1134
01:03:38,979 --> 01:03:36,100
attract about yeah well I mean this you

1135
01:03:42,529 --> 01:03:38,989
know I mean probably tell you bad but

1136
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,539
you know the the circle makers if you

1137
01:03:47,630 --> 01:03:44,160
believe circle makers making or not

1138
01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:47,640
would come in to come into the fielder

1139
01:03:52,009 --> 01:03:50,670
you know try and not to disturb make too

1140
01:03:58,699 --> 01:03:52,019
much of a disturbance and they probably

1141
01:04:01,459 --> 01:03:58,709
would use those tractor lines do you get

1142
01:04:04,189 --> 01:04:01,469
many Satan's before think these days not

1143
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:04,199
like not like obviously not like in the

1144
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:06,420
height of the sixties we occasionally

1145
01:04:12,410 --> 01:04:10,079
have sightings but the ones that occur

1146
01:04:14,660 --> 01:04:12,420
mostly of late around when we saw it as

1147
01:04:16,819 --> 01:04:14,670
it's a misidentification of the stunt

1148
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:16,829
plane with the pyrotechnics which gets

1149
01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:21,599
reported almost every other month it

1150
01:04:25,699 --> 01:04:23,430
doesn't have called from a distance I

1151
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:25,709
give you double my first suppose what's

1152
01:04:30,709 --> 01:04:26,160
that

1153
01:04:32,959 --> 01:04:30,719
but yeah I mean it's from a guy who he

1154
01:04:35,809 --> 01:04:32,969
actually flies stunt planes he's based

1155
01:04:38,509 --> 01:04:35,819
out at Crockett in got called Tim juice

1156
01:04:41,449 --> 01:04:38,519
and I think the company's called arrow

1157
01:04:42,969 --> 01:04:41,459
sparks and they they do exhibitions all

1158
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:42,979
around the world and this often gets

1159
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:52,650
mistaken is a UFO well the army was

1160
01:04:57,469 --> 01:04:55,890
obviously why don't send they were put

1161
01:05:00,529 --> 01:04:57,479
out but certainly they were blamed for a

1162
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:00,539
lot of the stuff to which they kind of

1163
01:05:04,910 --> 01:05:02,609
denied and said that was nothing to do

1164
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:04,920
with us but I mean okay same a lot of

1165
01:05:11,900 --> 01:05:07,170
the local people would have been aware

1166
01:05:13,729 --> 01:05:11,910
with the kind of military for many years

1167
01:05:15,799 --> 01:05:13,739
it was probably some of these you know

1168
01:05:18,949 --> 01:05:15,809
that the sky watches perhaps come to

1169
01:05:28,249 --> 01:05:18,959
town if they were gonna miss identify

1170
01:05:46,099 --> 01:05:28,259
anything perhaps it was you know saying

1171
01:05:47,660 --> 01:05:46,109
there was underlining a yes it's not the

1172
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:47,670
only place that it's done that to

1173
01:05:54,529 --> 01:05:51,630
overstep no no the lady was just asking

1174
01:05:58,189 --> 01:05:54,539
about why was there so many sightings

1175
01:06:02,259 --> 01:05:58,199
you know it was really the first kind of

1176
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,269
youth the cult of the UK I think I think

1177
01:06:07,749 --> 01:06:04,319
well actually there was a flat in

1178
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:07,759
stoke-on-trent and in the early 60s

1179
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:10,650
Bambury as well about around the same

1180
01:06:15,469 --> 01:06:13,650
sort of time is warminster but you know

1181
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:15,479
I don't know what I mean I I've no idea

1182
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:18,150
I mean I think to a lot of people prior

1183
01:06:23,870 --> 01:06:21,599
to warm its to becoming this chronic

1184
01:06:25,699 --> 01:06:23,880
window air or hot spot a lot of people

1185
01:06:29,329 --> 01:06:25,709
thought that sort of thing only sort of

1186
01:06:31,729 --> 01:06:29,339
code in our zone or Utah or somewhere

1187
01:06:33,229 --> 01:06:31,739
like that but with the backdrop and that

1188
01:06:36,049 --> 01:06:33,239
you know with the hills and you know the

1189
01:06:37,549 --> 01:06:36,059
ancient sites it kind of kind of worked

1190
01:06:39,469 --> 01:06:37,559
I suppose for a lot of people that you

1191
01:06:43,179 --> 01:06:39,479
know we're drawn to it and of course you

1192
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:43,189
know if you think of the times you know

1193
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:46,710
towards the mid 60's going 70

1194
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:50,130
new ages cool out of airmail kind of

1195
01:07:05,240 --> 01:06:52,410
rolled up as well so you know it's

1196
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:05,250
trying to make a bit of a UFO yeah you

1197
01:07:10,430 --> 01:07:07,920
could be white he has a lot of theories

1198
01:07:15,710 --> 01:07:10,440
on you know UFOs perhaps being fought

1199
01:07:18,620 --> 01:07:15,720
forms or psychic events or you know sort

1200
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:18,630
of Tulpas of sorts yeah yeah I don't

1201
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:27,930
disagree yes the one when we had the

1202
01:07:35,390 --> 01:07:31,440
sound malfunction not personally it was

1203
01:07:38,059 --> 01:07:35,400
only a case of the the sound equipment

1204
01:07:40,250 --> 01:07:38,069
actually dropping out I know I

1205
01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:40,260
personally didn't experience anything

1206
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:46,900
[Music]

1207
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:02,330
yeah I think that's Steve Alexander's

1208
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:06,290
footage yeah interesting yeah same same

1209
01:08:13,970 --> 01:08:10,530
similar sort thing I think there's an

1210
01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:13,980
also a guy called Pierre because he's

1211
01:08:20,570 --> 01:08:16,440
also filmed a lot of those kind of

1212
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:20,580
anomalous white orbs in and around crop

1213
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:22,620
circles I mean there is a there is a

1214
01:08:29,570 --> 01:08:27,359
famous one of once supposedly form him

1215
01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:29,580
at one but I think you know I think it's

1216
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:36,039
anymore anymore

1217
01:09:09,019 --> 01:09:06,650
yeah yeah yeah no I agree I'm like we

1218
01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:09,029
said earlier it is a controversial

1219
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:12,150
photograph and and the actual time II he

1220
01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:14,010
suggested he took it which was I think

1221
01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:17,910
at 8 o'clock 8 o'clock in the evening it

1222
01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:19,500
would have been down deep in dark in

1223
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:22,020
that time but like we were saying

1224
01:09:25,460 --> 01:09:23,730
earlier at that point you didn't really

1225
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:25,470
mad the only thing that that did was

1226
01:09:49,509 --> 01:09:47,649
they had a great beat yeah that's why

1227
01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:49,519
that's why I actually said well you know

1228
01:09:54,209 --> 01:09:51,980
the guys actually put on the broad eight

1229
01:09:59,649 --> 01:09:54,219
and four year anniversary conference

1230
01:10:01,540 --> 01:09:59,659
last year so yeah there is those

1231
01:10:04,419 --> 01:10:01,550
parallels with the two cases I think

1232
01:10:07,839 --> 01:10:04,429
obviously in the cases brought Haven

1233
01:10:10,419 --> 01:10:07,849
that the children all pictures and it

1234
01:10:13,569 --> 01:10:10,429
was a it was a bigger story really

1235
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:13,579
wasn't there things on Blue Peter and on

1236
01:10:17,379 --> 01:10:16,249
the national news opposed to just being

1237
01:10:19,529 --> 01:10:17,389
on the local news

1238
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:19,539
you'd be surprised actually how many

1239
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:22,369
sightings are out by school crews in

1240
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:22,880
schools

1241
01:10:27,250 --> 01:10:25,280
yeah there's quite a few yeah you got

1242
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:27,260
the aerial case haven't you you've got

1243
01:10:39,339 --> 01:10:35,679
the one in Australia the guild case

1244
01:10:41,049 --> 01:10:39,349
another school in the abroad aim that's

1245
01:10:43,859 --> 01:10:41,059
or something I think it was the same day

1246
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:43,869
when it mm-hmm

1247
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:51,440
yeah yes interested in it I mean anymore

1248
01:10:56,799 --> 01:10:54,530
for anymore do you think some of the

1249
01:11:01,060 --> 01:10:56,809
there was one where there was a night

1250
01:11:02,620 --> 01:11:01,070
vision cigarettes yeah there's a quick

1251
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,630
light do you think that could be someone

1252
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:03,920
as simple as me

1253
01:11:08,650 --> 01:11:06,530
you know infrared bouncing back yeah it

1254
01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:08,660
could be could be I mean only biodiesel

1255
01:11:13,210 --> 01:11:11,240
shown it for purpose of illustration and

1256
01:11:15,670 --> 01:11:13,220
so it could be a lot of things of course

1257
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:15,680
what do you think well this is a do you

1258
01:11:21,390 --> 01:11:18,770
think it's just some people you know no

1259
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:21,400
no no I mean you know I think I think

1260
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:24,170
you think and we got you've got you've

1261
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:27,170
got taking his rate warminster flap was

1262
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:30,110
his height during the mid 60's but then

1263
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:35,210
ran till kind of about 1980 so you had a

1264
01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:37,910
15 year period and I think you know

1265
01:11:43,870 --> 01:11:41,540
there was genuine sightings you know you

1266
01:11:46,090 --> 01:11:43,880
know some people who came to the town

1267
01:11:48,490 --> 01:11:46,100
probably was a bit disingenuous as well

1268
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:48,500
so you've got a whole hot punch of

1269
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:49,970
different things going on but

1270
01:11:56,140 --> 01:11:53,570
underlining there was too many too many

1271
01:12:02,130 --> 01:11:56,150
reports for it being up there exactly

1272
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:02,140
yeah yeah definitely misidentifications

1273
01:12:07,780 --> 01:12:04,490
again like we said half a shadow would

1274
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:07,790
who wrote wrote the broke the books

1275
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:12,080
around warminster he had a kind of

1276
01:12:16,150 --> 01:12:14,450
Flowery writing style and i said he kind

1277
01:12:19,180 --> 01:12:16,160
of sexed it up in the way he described

1278
01:12:20,710 --> 01:12:19,190
things happened but out of everybody who

1279
01:12:22,510 --> 01:12:20,720
ever talked to you know sketches like

1280
01:12:25,330 --> 01:12:22,520
who actually met other said you know he

1281
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:25,340
was many things but he wasn't a liar you

1282
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:27,170
know he didn't have this kind of way of

1283
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:39,460
no that was Peter Padgett and Randall

1284
01:12:59,320 --> 01:12:57,880
think that's how many ways the wells

1285
01:13:12,700 --> 01:12:59,330
triangle I think I think I was a good

1286
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:12,710
every birthing us okay okay well thanks

1287
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:25,310
three much guys thanks for having me not

1288
01:13:33,070 --> 01:13:31,490
just over the bald edge he came to give

1289
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:33,080
us a talk a few months ago if you

1290
01:13:52,450 --> 01:13:50,480
remember basis Tommy in Texas on youtube

1291
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:52,460
if you missed that here but Matthew

1292
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:53,600
brought Steve with him because he lived

1293
01:13:57,610 --> 01:13:56,210
nearby under Muffy's been doing the film

1294
01:14:05,650 --> 01:13:57,620
in there and like he did Ashley because

1295
01:14:08,590 --> 01:14:05,660
I off-camera beginning so anyway that's

1296
01:14:09,370 --> 01:14:08,600
all come for coming and see wall again

1297
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:09,380
in two weeks